joji387 replied to your post: “ronnie sono moooolto curiosa di sapere cosa pensi di comic con… (sono finiti così in basso io non capisco proprio. ti ricordi quando a hoechlin e dylan era permesso parlare di sterek?? c’è poco da fare jeff davis sta rovinando tutto… quando non c’è lui si sta meglio)”:TW mi è scaduto molto di più che h50, e si che pensavo si fosse raggiunto il fondo con quello… e invece no! Che delusione, ogni settimana sembra che esca un motivo nuovo a ricordarmi xke ho fatto bene a mollar lo show.
Si superano di volta in volta. Penso che la caduta di ascolti che hanno già avuto in questi primi 5 episodi e che secondo me continuerà anche nei prossimi, sià esattamente il risultato di ciò che loro stessi hanno fatto.
Chi semina vento raccoglie tempesta.
Hanno distrutto questo show con le loro stesse mani, quando invece le fans sono riuscite a fare l’esatto opposto e lo fanno ogni giorno con il loro talento. Le fans con i loro fanworks vanno a migliorare lo show e a soddisfare laddove questo non ha potuto.
Da una parte spero che la perdita di ascolti possa dargli una “svegliata”, ma dall’altro so che in fondo questo show e il modo in si relaziona con i fans è troppo cambiato e non sarà mai lo stesso anche se tentassero di rimediare in seguito.
Posso intromettermi? xD Sto leggendo molte cose e che me le dicano in italiano è più facile che non le fraintenda…
Come mai dite che il video sulle ff era offensivo? L’ho visto 2 volte e a me ha fatto divertire…c’è stato un, personalmente giusto, wierd riguardo alla storia tra MaliaxDerek, ma perché son cugini e loro non avevano mai visto i loro personaggi in quella situazione…
E la cosa sui nomi (e quindi i posti) scambiati quanto è vera? Cioè c’è un video o è solo una voce?
E c’è anche il video della premiazione? Mi piacerebbe vederlo, ma non lo trovo :/
I came here to enjoy Teen Wolf at SDCC 2014
like, I’ve seen the trailer, the whole panel and the interviews with clevertv and I was okay with that, but then I started seeing what everyone else has thought about it. And now I think that THERE MUST be a sort of a TROLL in this fandom, especially one that spreads mis-information through people who has still not watch all those things, ‘cause seriously the FAN FICTIONS thing was totally misunderstood:
The first one was soooooo funny and that’s why they were laughing (even not so much); the 2nd one was about Malia and Derek, so I challenge you to read a fiction about you and your cousin doing dirty and not laughing about it or being embarrassed or grossed about it; and the last one honestly I didn’t understand anything (since English isn’t my first language) ‘cause, be clear, Holland admitted herself that when she talk it’s haaaaard to understand her.
At the end “What you guys think about it?” asked the interviewer
Holland: I think they were a little fragmented
Hoechlin: I think I heard a lot but I heard nothing.
Now where is this offensive? Has some of you, who are saying shitty things about them, has at least watched this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLThAUgVRG0
We really need to be careful to trust people, personally I don’t trust no one without an official link to the info or, in this case, after I have watched myself the video/episode, ‘cause some people who formerly may be hurt by this show, they now can have a biased opinion about everything they do…I’m not saying they’re flawless, but don’t put in their mouths the things they didn’t say
Finally able to sit and watch/listen to the Teen Wolf panel from SDCC.
And I just have to reiterate how great it is that Shelley was so welcomed. Lots of cheering for Shelley, Malia and Stalia. And I kinda think this reaffirms to Jeff that Stalia is well liked and accepted. Those that complain are very minuscule in comparison to the fandom.
There was plenty of talk about making her feel unwanted and I’m glad that was not the case. Shelley does not deserve any shade being thrown at her and I’m just glad it didn’t happen in a big forum like SDCC.
Just wanted to say that :)
What if who don’t like her was just polite? You know ,some people know how to be respectful xD I was happy to see that there wasn’t bad things about Shelley or Malia too, but doesn’t mean that those people maybe be just few of them but maybe it means they know that shouting their opinion would be just unfair for the actors and the rest of the fandom that don’t think like them…you know, it’s the fact that showing love is Ok and that showing hate it isn’t, that is obviously a blessing, but then it doesn’t show really what people think.
Teen Wolf Comic-Con 2014 Panel Part 1 (made by CleverTv)
Personally I was strangely upset last night when I went to bed after reading all the news in this panel, but now watching it I have to reconsider my opinion. It was a very nice panel as the previous. Lil’ Dyl was so cuuute, he’s still a puppy. Yes some of the question are always the same, but I like how the cast answers to them, how they enjoy the panel. Talking about cuteness when Dylan hugged that fan?!?!?!? Aaaaaaaw
I have even liked THE question about Malia and how Shelley has decided that was Jeff’s duty to answer to that and I liked his answer: what he said is that they used a BIT of tv licence, not showing us some of the things that happened during that 2 months of gap aka they needed new characters ‘cause 4 actors left the show, they liked Shelley and decided to develop her character.
Jeff has even answered a question about Danny, saying that we have not seen the last of him, but by the face of Holland and Hobrien they looked shocked (kind of) by his answer, so maybe they’ve decided to bring him back to season 5 after seeing so much people upset for their decision? Who knows, we just need to wait…(Even if I wish he’s The Benefactor, but Idkw xD)
dylan not being at comic con yet is making me nervous but then I remember that he showed up to the 2013 teen choice awards late with chicken mcnuggets
chill guys he’s probably just at mcdonalds
LOL And I tried to be more realistic and was thinking he was still on his plane, since he was here in Italy few days ago, but I’ve just remembered that Holland was here too, so maybe he’s really buying mcnuggets XD
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Stiles being an asshole over actual problems that are a huge struggle for people. I like Stiles, but lately I’ve been annoyed with how he’s been written. Poking fun at the kid who’s just been told he has a mental disorder isn’t funny, i don’t see how in any way that would be funny.
Or when Isaac spoke about abuse, which scars you forever by the way. Memories stay with you forever
after ethan says the twins were abused by their old pack:
it doesn’t make any sense to me that stiles would make comments like this.i always thought of him as a caring character. & he’s suffered mental illness recently why would he mock liam?
He’s always been like that, though. Like—okay, maybe you don’t like that aspect of his character and yes, there’s a lot of inconsistent writing, but this isn’t one of those things.
The thing is, the thing that I feel like a lot of people like to kind of ignore when it comes to Stiles, is he’s a little bit of a sociopath and maybe also a little bit of a psychopath. I don’t have a degree in psychology so I can’t really break down the difference between the two, especially since they have a lot of crossover, but I find it incredibly likely that Stiles has a combination of physical dysfunction in his brain and emotional-slash-mental trauma, most likely from his mother’s death and being in the room with her when it happened, that has completely skewed his ability to operate on a healthy, normal social level.
I truly and legitimately believe that Stiles has a fundamental difficulty, if not actual inability, to see other human beings as worthy of his empathy from the moment he meets them. I think he’s a misanthrope at heart, and mostly sees human beings as annoyances. He has to learn to care about each person individually. Not that he can’t or doesn’t care about some people, because he very clearly does, but he also has a pre-established tendency to cling very tightly to the people he does care about, very likely to an unhealthy level. Stiles doesn’t really do casual friends (most people do). He has very close friends or not at all. This is in part because he’s that guy. I hate to say it because he’s the fandom’s darling but Stiles is one hundred percent the guy who would give you creepy vibes if he went to your high school. He’s a publicly suspected criminal (felon? I haven’t looked up whether it’s a felony or not but I presume that kidnapping is a felony) with a restraint order against him, which we obviously saw Jackson didn’t mind mentioning at the drop of a hat. He looks at high glossy photos of graphic murders in the middle of Econ class.
Let me repeat that:
He looks at high glossy photos of graphic murders in the middle of class.
It isn’t that he doesn’t understand that these things violate social mores. He’s too smart for that. It’s that he doesn’t care. He has to learn to care with each new situation and each new individual. He often fakes caring because he knows Scott cares. Go back through the series and look at how many times Stiles does the right thing because Scott directly asked him to. Scott is Stiles’ conscience. I am fairly convinced in most situations, if Stiles has an internal conscience at all he simply doesn’t give a shit about it and stopped listening a long time ago.
He reacts to stress by running his mouth. When he’s in a high-stress situation, the first thing that goes is his give-a-damn about whether or not he’s hurting peoples’ feelings. He says what he thinks needs to be said, or what’s on his mind, and it occurs to him after he’s said it that maybe it was over the line. He even does this to Scott in the first season. The very first season, to his very best friend, one of the few people in the show we have been given reason to believe Stiles does legitimately care about.
Stiles makes these comments because he does not care that he’s hurting people or poking at old scars. He knows they’re effective because he shares those scars. It’s completely hypocritical of him, too, because I guarantee you if the tables were turned and someone was speaking in that way to him he’d take it badly. (Whether I think he’d shut down and collapse into himself or lash out violently depends on a lot of variables).
In short: he’s Sherlock Holmes, he’s not John Watson. He cares about very few people, deeply, and does things because they want him to, and he cares about solving puzzles for the sake of solving puzzles. He’s not an inherently caring character. Stiles has to work to care, and requires people to justify to him their worthiness of his caring, and yes, that’s a terrible thing for him to do.
let’s clear a few things up first:
the difference between sociopath and psychopath is, basically, none. whatsoever. those who believe psychopathy is purely something you become because of nurture say sociopath, nature say psychopath. the general consensus is that it’s a mix between the two, so most will use psychopath. it’s kind of like justin bieber thanking not only god, but also jesus.
peter would be classified as a psychopath from what has been shown on the show, not too sure kate would cut it by the psychopathy checklist. stiles has the same amount of psychopathic traits the average person has (about 4-5 points, if I remember correctly). the fact that he does cling to people, has a group of people he cares deeply about is a clear sign he’s no psychopath. he can be a manipulative little shit, but it’s not done for personal gain, like peter or gerard.
now, bullshit, humour and sass has always been stiles’ go-to defence mechanism, and that’s just what it is; a defence mechanism. he has a handful of people he cares about because the loss of his mom taught him loss happens to those who care, not those being cared of. funnily enough, his behaviour almost mirrors jackson’s a bit. I don’t know if that’s intentional or not.
in the scene with isaac, think about what just happened before stiles makes that comment- they’re talking about how the sacrifice is affecting them, isaac makes a comment about people going through what they go through being locked up in asylums and stiles asks him to be helpful and isaac says what’s in the gifs above. stiles is frustrated and, as we know now, scared out of mind. it’s a defence mechanism.
the thing with ethan happens right after boyd has died. stiles is being an asshole, yes, but it’s most likely because he’s pissed off. this is, weirdly enough, a good sign- normally erica and boyd wouldn’t have been close enough for stiles to give a shit, yet he does.
stiles is being incredibly insensitive with liam, yes, but his criticism is directed at scott, not liam. basically everyone but his dad and melissa is being targeted by an assassin club, he doesn’t have time for a newly bitten beta who already has anger issues, and I think that’s mainly where all the attitude is coming from. stiles was in a similar place and made a self-sacrificial decision to avoid hurting others, liam stops taking his meds so he can play lacrosse. (and on a side note, I wonder wtf his doctor of a stepdad is thinking?)
the nogitsune definitely changed stiles. I don’t know how getting your driver’s license is everywhere else but in sweden you have this crash test thing where the entire meaning with the 4-something hours you’re there is to experience what it’s like to lose the grip of the road or run into something (usually snow) so you won’t panic if it happens in real life. scott is so scared of becoming peter he might panic and flip his car, so to speak. stiles’ car has already been flipped, rolled down a hill and set on fire. whatever happens, he’s been there. so yeah, stiles “ohmygod is that brain matter” stilinski from 3a is now okay with looking at crime scene photos because he’s already seen worse, he’s been desensitised (which is easier than you might think) and he’s working against the clock to keep someone from dying while trying to maintain his grades. I’ve looked at worse pictures for less, to be honest with you.
tl;dr- being specific with who you consider your closest doesn’t make you a psychopath, neither does being an asshole. the nogitsune has made stiles meaner, but he’s still no peter. it’s not about who stiles deems worthy but who he considers worth caring about when he’ll end up losing them eventually anyway.
I’ve been saying this since the beginning of this show, Stiles Stilinski is a fucking sociopath and people just gloss over that fact because of how loyal he is to his friends. It’s easy to forget how he treats people less important to him because we often see him doing so much for the people that he actually cares about. Stiles isn’t becoming a worse person, he’s always had the mean words and the morbid sense of everything. The writers are just putting Stiles in a position for us to see how much of a terrible person he can be sometimes.
The worst part is that he’s not even trying to insult Liam in this scene, all those words are meant for Scott. In this specific instant he’s just voicing his annoyance, basically he’s saying “Really Scott? Not only did you turn another teenager but you turned one that couldn’t even handle himself before the bite. You’ve taken a walking time bomb and given it superpowers.” and I agree with him. We know that there were specific circumstances that lead us here but the fact still stands that Scott fucked up and Liam is a terrible beta. He’s like Jackson but worse, and Stiles doesn’t care about him enough to try and say all of this in a way that won’t hurt his feelings.
Yet when someone tries to hurt his feelings he lashes out. When Aiden threatened him Stiles was quick to let him know that human or not Aiden wouldn’t enjoy what was going to happen to him. But when he was hallucinating and his father was yelling and lashing out at him he just stood there and took it, because he felt that he deserved what was being said. He knew that it was true, and people that know the worst things about themselves are the one’s that are hardest to hurt.
When Stiles says theses things, it’s not out of malice or hatred. It’s simply because he just doesn’t care.
"GIRLS…UGH. THEY’RE SO DRAMATIC. HOW DO YOU EVEN DEAL?” - Malia probably
I thought she was understanding that she has just upset Lydia, the only one that can says her if she on the list too. TBH why wouldn’t she have been on the list?!?!? That’s definitely not an eyeroll, but more like a “oh fuck, I broke her, Lyds come here, you know I’m still learning I didn’t meant to be rude, Lyyyyyyds”